pyro was right.

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    This video is not monetized/sponsored for it's sensitive nature, I do encourage you to look into mental health and suicide prevention. if you know someone is suffering through this right now help them seek professional help.
    This is a tale of internet beef between two long time individuals on the internet. I want the memory of this man to remain intact for the good he left on this planet, let's not use him as a bargaining chip/ammunition for the sake of winning some internet beef.

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    1. RedTriangle53

      Ethan showcased Keemstar's history of targeting, egging on, harassing and straight up gaslighting people with mental issues, with the obvious connotation that that's much worse than his regular harassment. That is also what he did to Etika. Nobody said or intended to say that Keemstar is responsible for Etika's death, but he certainly is responsible for doing everything he could to worsen his mental health. Etika chose to end his own life, and that's his responsibility, nobody else's. He didn't choose to be the target of the internet equivalent of a lynching while he was at his most vulnerable though. That is on keemstar. Keemstar also harassed Etika further to capitalize on the fact that he had gone missing. The point of the video was to show that keemstar enjoys preying on the vulnerable, and it would have made that point equally well if Etika had still been alive. Ethan himself says it best in one of the followup videos: "if I thought you were responsible for Etika's death I would have contacted the police, not made a video about it".

    2. Warrior Of God

      Thumbnail clickbaity

    3. Shrimpy sushi

      Category: *Gaming*

    4. CryptoCondemnation

      When I watched the video I didn't think that he meant etika killed himself because of keem. I thought that he was saying that as soon as he did kill himself keem acted like he was heartbroken but when he was alive he was calling him crazy and arguing with him constantly as evidence of his scumbaggery. Fousey did literally say he wanted to killhimself because of keem though so I dont think its much of a jump to make.

    5. Charlie D

      keem said that he should just jump off a cliff. y'know he said that

      1. doliio volay

        Bruh i really do miss etika

    6. Aether Toast

      The way that you can say someone is to blame through a suicide is if that person talked them through it, gave them the materials to do it, repeatedly encouraged them to do it, and kept telling them to keep doing it whenever that person started to show doubts about it. If Keemstar did that, then yes it is his fault, otherwise to blame Keemstar is disgusting.

      1. doliio volay

        Off Topic... But can you believe Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift are older than Muta? Bro...

    7. Fizzle Talks

      The only thing that Keem's done that I think is unforgivable is that time when he wrongfully accused an elderly Twitch streamer of being a pedophile when the real guy was still behind bars.

    8. Meme Man

      I’ve never ever watched a h3h3 pod cast not even lying

    9. ReachSkyla

      I cant belive you are doing this shit AGAIN muta. It was pretty clear what ethan meant when he brought up etika. Ethan NEVER said nor implied keem caused Etika to kill himself. He brought up etika to show that keem did not think mental illness was real and to show that keem never cared about etika until he died. And the hypocrisy of keems tweets when he called etika his homie. That's all. Maybe if you kept watching you would've caught that. What Ethan said was completely valid. And he didn't only mention etika. He mentioned several other people that keem hurt MENTALLY. But for some reason you focused on the Etika segment. Ethan never insinuated that etikas death was keems fault. It was all about mental health and the people that keem hurt. He was never trying to imply that he was BETTER than keem. He ONLY made that video because keem threw the first punch and called him a liar after YOUR drama. Now you're doing the same shit again muta. Fuck man.

    10. Liam Martin

      Ethan pretty nakedly just milking EEsel’s universal disdain for Keem to stir up drama and views was just poor form for him. Like we get it, keem’s a jackass. But it’s not new, and seeing him get snarky at neutral guys like SOG about this shit really turns me off. Nobody likes a shitkicker

    11. oiuet souiu

      Keem: That's why yo shoes raggedy Ethan: That's why Etika dead Keem: ... Ethan: What shoes he got on in his casket?

    12. zyarai plays but i literally doesnt play

      etika's death is like pharaoh grave, they go to the grave just to get the treasure/money

    13. The Dude

      Imagine disliking this.

      1. oiuet souiu

        You have some good points, but after the bs you pulled during the donation shaming situation, I don't really see you as the most trustworthy source or opinion. Sorry.

    14. Alex Farley

      man most content creators in general are just... not good people. You can just tell how egotistical and insulated they are

    15. AmericanIdiot

      yes

    16. lele.

      Rest in peace Etika.

    17. My223s

      Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016

    18. My223s

      Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016

    19. My223s

      Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016

    20. My223s

      Grade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016 vGrade and Leafy are coming back and everybody is beefing with Keemstar. We’re back in 2016

    21. Totoqen

      Off Topic... But can you believe Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift are older than Muta? Bro...

    22. Justin Jones

      Bruh i really do miss etika

    23. fab

      Pyro is amazing. I respect the fuck out of him.

    24. p boersma

      He should delete the content nuke

    25. Night Player

      to clear something up, the guy just shows things keemstar has done. if somebody rapes a women, it doesnt mean you dont need to bring it up after a year. the guy has done terrible things and people are talking down on ethan because he brings it up. keemstar shoudl be reminded every day of the fucked up shit he has done

    26. Tishe 10

      pyRo is always Right

    27. Diavolos Donuts

      You know it’s a serious video when there’s no thanos Muta

    28. Underscore _

      COMPANIES SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHO IS SPONORING THEIR PRODUCT. THEY DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR PRODUCY IS ASSOCIATED WITH.

    29. Underscore _

      You have some good points, but after the bs you pulled during the donation shaming situation, I don't really see you as the most trustworthy source or opinion. Sorry.

    30. AbdulrahmanDevon

      You can't cancel an idealogy.

    31. Alfnir Bjornson

      H3H3 is the biggest snake on YT. He has betrayed Leafy, Jontron, and Pyro. He sends his cronies after everyone he hates, and works with Susan to delete any video that criticizes him.

    32. miss K

      this isn’t even the first time h3h3 has done something like this, during the kpop controversy that he caused himself he brought up Sulli's death (an idol who took her own life last year) just to make himself look better and "expose" kpopies I always know he wasn’t really nice person

    33. Aldin Jahić

      Pyrocynical is the literally the Einstein of youtube. Even though his personality is full of memes, he knows when the shit is real.

    34. Xaldyn Nemo

      Oh look, another person who wrongly believes that going after advertisers is 100% the fault of Ethan and Keemstar's current beef, despite it having been a thing for years--including from Keemstar.

      1. bowen voowy

        understand that it was a bit insensitive on ethan's part to include the etika drama when there were other instances with more blatant misconduct.

    35. George Billson

      I'll never understand why videos like this get dislikes in the thousands...

      1. bowen voowy

        i don't think the etika segment was included to insinuate that keemstar was responsible for keem's death, I feel like a large portion of it was to demonstrate that keem was

    36. Ever Pizarro

      This guy is looking for another L, didn’t learn the 1st time lol

      1. HakakaPraveen

        Erm who are you talking about?

    37. thefreshprincer

      Ello guoys pyrocynical ere

    38. Alex Grace

      Holy shit I have nothing wrong with swearing but holy shot does this guy swear wayyyyy too much every sentence he says “fuck” or “fucking”

    39. Hel Trom

      *Category: Gaming*

    40. kurtzwerk

      Muta: *makes an actual point that can go against Ethan* Ethan: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that

    41. CryoXeno

      Didn't you bring up Etika when talking about Boogie?

    42. Emilie B

      As someone suffering from mental illness who has been suicidal a few times for very long times, I'm glad Ethan brought up Etika. If something like what happened to Etika would happen to me, I would WANT people to bring it up when I'm dead. Because the more you make it clear to people that their shitty behavior affects people, especially those with mental illness, the more awareness will be brought to it. Even if his death is definitely not 100% on Keemstar, because a suicide never is for one thing but because of an accumulation of things, people like Keemstar who harass people and encourage harassment should be HEAVILY fined or/and be prevented from using social media after a ruling. In my opinion, it should be a convictable crime like any other call to violence. There is no excuse: Keemstar was not an edgy 12 years old. Maybe Etika walked up to the edge and contemplated it, but Keemstar sure helped him stand a little closer to the edge if not to take the last step. People just don't want to talk about people who died from suicide because it's hard and uncomfortable. That's why it's so hard to get anyone really doing anything about it, really enacting programs, a good system and laws to prevent it. If no one talks about what could have saved Etika and what most certainly pushed him to the edge, then we're just gonna fail another one like him again. Mental illness and its repercussions are ugly and uncomfortable. And that is why we NEED to talk about them. I've grown lukewarm about Ethan with time, so I don't care if he wins or not, but Keemstar should have been long banned from every platform because, from everything I heard of him, he's just as horrible of a person as Alex Jones.

    43. MaxxxM

      chickie chickie donut chicken on a donut

    44. SaaD

      Nice IKEA bed

    45. Nine tales Weeb

      What are you afraid of

    46. w a l t e r d o g

      You know it's serious when there's no thumbnail

    47. Clorax Guy

      Can’t be said any better

    48. capture captain

      No hats on beds. It's bad luck

    49. Chayee Bailey

      Yes

    50. Th3Orange

      Keem can defend himself just fine. Can he tho?

    51. Luc Ikaika

      i don't think the etika segment was included to insinuate that keemstar was responsible for keem's death, I feel like a large portion of it was to demonstrate that keem was exploiting etika's mental instability to garner more views for himself while only pretending to care about his condition. however, when you look at the situation as a whole, i do understand that it was a bit insensitive on ethan's part to include the etika drama when there were other instances with more blatant misconduct.

    52. bowen voowy

      came across me when I realised again that he is gone.

    53. yeet 69

      "mmh mmmmmh! mmmmh?" pyro 2020

    54. Bewtay

      You take so many L’s

    55. Shan M

      <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="764">12:44</a> despite what you believe, this feels good

    56. Wild Smile

      Pyro is a very down to earth pwrson and he always has been able to show empathy, while also being funny. EEsel has lost this empathty to money and its sad honesty. There are few EEselrs with it. Thats why I think thing like this happen is people simply don't hold a common morality. It will be the death of this platform.

      1. bowen voowy

        now, it is just a meme. I can assure you this is unbiased, just so you know the info

    57. Cringey nickname

      Mutha, on nuclear fallout he said he didn’t make that point, and in this video you gave evidence he made that point, can someone, anyone tell me who made the right point? Also love the title of the video. Pyro is always right

    58. Bat Ueck

      Why did you just say pyro was right when his video was about clickbaiting Etikia's passing. Also the whole there is missing context. You then bring up the same thing ethan talked about in his video making me think you didnt listen the video you just heard it. "I have to tell you how to do the job"- guy who fails to do his job.

    59. Samuel Vista

      Also with the pedo stories, a lot of people have seen that the first thing they do is to go to their "Lord and Saviour". TAKE LEGAL ACTION, NOT CLOUT!

    60. lucid drms

      Keem shouldnt have even had etika on the show at that time because of the shit that was going on with him

    61. Adam S.

      What really soured me the most about keem and Etika was how keem pretended to be close friends after everything he tweeted and said during the interviews. Incredibly disrespectful. I know Ethan is bad, but he doesn’t even come close to Keem’s dipshit moral standards.

    62. Holo x3

      Keem was not responsible for his death but he was the one person which pushed him so much. Nobody did it this hard like Keem. I would rly like to see everybody just fck up keems mental health so he can feel the pain..

    63. Hammi

      it's not about the receipts, it's about the power .. when h3 does a video about someone it's not like other youtubers .. he's one of the rare few who can actually end people on youtube.

    64. IeatURANIUM

      "keemstar been pretty good guy to me" (i dont care that he bullied a 8 years old special needs kid)

      1. Kevin .Young

        @Byzantine Revolt so has every comedian on the known planet.

      2. Byzantine Revolt

        "H3 been pretty good guy to me" (i don't care that he called all Catholics paedophiles)

    65. Damon Hoppe

      I don't like h3h3, but he is doing what needs to be done.

    66. Etriuswimbleton

      did you mention anything about pyro? ????

    67. Cactus Creake

      youtubers bottom lines more important than treating people with kindess

    68. Smiley Neni

      I don’t think Ethan meant to put any blame on keemstar, I think his point was the keemstar took advantage of a person with going through not only a hard time, but going through a manic state for views. Only pointing out that people seemed to over look the shit that keemstar may have put Etika through for the sake of getting people to point and laugh at a man with bipolar disorder.

    69. Equiliz

      Bringing up etika to support your points for a video is just a low blow overall and you should be ashamed if you blame anyone except pure mental illness and the struggles that come with it

    70. Simon Ghoul

      Its debatable whether the community is at fault or not... I can't blame myself, and I think people shouldn't blame themselves either. (TL;DR: It was unavoidable and people can react the way they would normally in response to things regardless of health. Many people also didn't take it seriously, it's hard to take people seriously on the internet. A lot of people also don't know a lot about mental health) Mental health is complicated. When someone with a mental disorder does something they shouldn't, you can't blame the people involved, because at the end of the day, just like Katerino, they still have to do something themselves to fix their flaws and deal with their mental issues. If you for example can't tolerate someone's behavior, you are free to get away from this person for example. As for Etika, in his case, I find it that a lot of people just didn't take it seriously. A lot of people lack of a basic understanding of mental health (but as times go on, I know that the amount of people who know about this and take it seriously has grown exponentially). When Etika was acting out and doing all of these things, people don't know much about mental healh will think it is an act. That interview with keemstar also felt like a whole act, even if he was passionate. Some people found it funny, while others found it as a toxic and irresponsible way to get views. People just reacted the way they do because they are people, and they are just being themselves. This is how they respond to his actions, and that is life. By putting the blame on somebody, even a group of people, you are saying that there is a way that this could had been avoided, but there is now way. I said this when Etika died, there was no way it could had been prevented, you just have to move on. The cards were layed out, and such is life, you don't have the power to control the cards or to know the outcome. All you can do is to try to do your best, don't let people take advantage of you but try to be considerate still. What happened to Etika is basically the same thing that happened to everybody who allegedly had or has mental issues. It was a different outcome, but it still is the same situation that people have to face. FouseyTube, Yandev, Katerino, Onision, h3h3, Trisha Paytas, Tobuscus, (The pauls?), you name it. I am not defending any of these people, but when you think about it, it is the same situation where you have to think: Are they serious? Are they Joking? Are they trying to get views? Excuses? Etc. And people are reacting the same way they did with Etika, not to the same extent or amount on any party though, but it is still the same deal. The morale here, is that if you are blaming yourself, stop. It was impossible to prevent, even if you knew him personally. That is life, you will not go crazy if you consider your grades and many things in life to just had to have that outcome because of the cards that were played and were on the table. The other morale is to try to be nice and considerate without being a fool. You have to always try to improve yourself, most of the time if not all there is no point where you can't keep on improving. You can't be perfect. Don't stress yourself for it, just make that your goal, to improve over and over as a person. I think you have less control weight, intellect, and other things, so I need to emphasize that you should improve *as a person.* Those things can also be improved, but they have an ending and they are not as easy to grasp (improving as a person is not easy either) I know I worded myself horribly. When I am not confident in being able to explain myself or get my point accross, I mess up and everyone says they don't know what I am saying. Writing this much and spending this much time irritated me lol (10-30 mins). I regret writing this, I shouldn't had, I already did something like this when Etika died and I could had been satisfied with that. I wasted my time

      1. RabidBunnyMan

        I liked your comment because you put a lot of thought into it, but I don't agree with you entirely. I don't think that there was no way that this could have been prevented, that Etika's suicide was somehow preordained. I guess you're right in saying that people aren't responsible, but at the same time, their ignorance did contribute to this, if only a little bit. I don't know if there was support for him, but something in society is wrong if this stuff is stuff goes unchecked and sadly gets abused for other people's personal gain. And frankly, I doubt it'll get any better as people get more and more desensitized to this stuff.

      2. Simon Ghoul

        test

    71. Simon Ghoul

      The Trisha Paytas thing can be a meme, or a drama that can't be taken as a big deal, depends of the time, event, and yeah. It may be a big deal of you are a fan of Trisha As of now, it is just a meme. I can assure you this is unbiased, just so you know the info

      1. Simon Ghoul

        test

    72. A Slightly Peeved Canadian

      Didn’t H3H3 originally try to get youtubers to go after Pyro, and when that failed they set their sights on Leafy instead?

    73. _eashy

      great video muda! topic aside, is the camera quality bad for anyone else at 720p?

    74. Ocean Biggs

      I unsubscribed from keem and h3. Their drama sucks.

    75. SuperUnunquadium

      H3H3 isn't much better than Keem eesel.info/video/video/qJiohaBsy6pmkrc.html

    76. d mart

      what about idubbbz

    77. Soinas Doyi

      “Do not give pyro a platfomr to defend himself”

      1. Selin Naz Sur

        @Manak Mishra Ethan. There still must be some reuploads of Gokanaru's video on H3 and he lays out the whole thing pretty well.

      2. Manak Mishra

        who said that?

    78. David Reyes

      I’ve been supporting you since the first Creepypasta stuff and this video just reminded me why I’m subscribed

      1. Soinas Doyi

        just BS when it blows up.

    79. Ultra

      Oh i thought It was the tf2 pyro 😅

    80. grunermrk

      Hmm interesting you don't like the video from the dude you tried to shit talk on and got absolutely demolished by hmmm, interesting.

      1. swxrd.

        Hmmm interesting you didn't even watch the video so you post a dumb comment hmmmm, interesting

      2. JacketClanKing

        H3H3 and keem are both vile human beings, keemstar being mostly reformed and H3H3 reaching just to make himself seem like the good guy